Terrible A-Team - BNI Version.

TLDR : Friend of the DTP show gets invaded by BNI. We bring equal to less numbers and they blue ball us. Sad face.

I have referred to our antics in the past as a fucked up A-Team. We come into a situation sometimes that we didn’t create and the sides are not always clearly right or wrong.

We go in anyway, not because we are standing up for right and wrong or anything so noble. We aren’t even the villains in most situations. To quote one of my corp members trying to describe what we do. “We are some guys who look around for people shoot at”.

Whatever it takes to make that happen, we try and do that.

So on my drive home yesterday, Bronya Boga(SUSU Director) texts me asking if we want to rescue Jester and Jhole from a BNI(Brave Newbies) invasion.

A little history here.

Brave Newbies have a very fun and carefree attitude toward the game of EVE. I find their outlook and play style, refreshing. Well at least I did. As of late they have been more risk adverse than in the past, and substantially less fun. Please don’t confuse “fun” with easy targets, Brave would have you believe they are hapless newbies, they aren’t. They have legit tactics and experienced FC’s who are experts at herding cats.  Again, reasons to respect them.

Jester and the guys from JHole are a different sort. I personally like him for the same reasons I like Psychotic Monk. They are content creators. For good or ill, they make stuff happen. They bring interesting things to a game filled with “risk adverse try hards”.  For that, they should be commended.

To quote a friend of mine who has a very bad meth habit.

I Gatta DO Somethin ! Even if its wrong!

I don’t know the story between Jester and BNI, but from I could deduce, he pissed them off. A LOT!  Stole stuff, shot blues… whatever.

So here I am, friends on both sides and a never ending desire to shoot things. What to do... Join the underdogs, more targets!

Actual Story:

I didn’t provide an answer to Bronya’s text cause I was driving. I trust him enough to make policy calls without my hand holding.

I logged in when I got home to find he had already formed up a fleet and teamed up with TLC.  Now TLC is another wormhole group and I’m not sure jesters history is with them, but from early reports, we were outnumbered. TLC was going in anyway, so we decided to join fleets.

BNI feet was checking in at 30 to 40+ and Jester has about 6 active guys. About 11 from SUSU and another 20 or so from TLC.

We formed up a nice little kick ass fleet and headed out to crash the BNI party. We made it halfway through the chain when we got scout reports that BNI was running. RUNNING?! We were bringing equal numbers and they were running.

We trapped them in a connecting C4 and this convo happened with “A DAMN PATRIOT”(head honcho for Drop bears, BNI’s Wormhole wing/corp/whatever)

[ 2013.09.20 00:22:52 ] Longinius Spear > can't talk at the moment ADP :)
[ 2013.09.20 00:23:31 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > you're here to fight for jhole?
[ 2013.09.20 00:23:48 ] Longinius Spear > just a moment
[ 2013.09.20 00:25:31 ] Longinius Spear > WE came for a fight
[ 2013.09.20 00:25:42 ] Longinius Spear > We heard you guys had one
[ 2013.09.20 00:25:43 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > haha for sure
[ 2013.09.20 00:25:48 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > well
[ 2013.09.20 00:25:53 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > we're taking revenge on jester
[ 2013.09.20 00:26:00 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > they are a bunch of dickheads
[ 2013.09.20 00:26:10 ] Longinius Spear > Meh.. reasons for fights come and go. but combat is imortal!
[ 2013.09.20 00:26:16 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > i'd love to fight you, but it does suck that you're fighting on "their" side
[ 2013.09.20 00:26:19 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > so
[ 2013.09.20 00:26:30 ] Longinius Spear > Bahh its not sides bro.. its just fights
[ 2013.09.20 00:26:34 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > if we can welp your fleet into you guys we'd be happy
[ 2013.09.20 00:26:38 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > for sure
[ 2013.09.20 00:26:54 ] Longinius Spear > Come on man.. you know its not about winning and losing.. its about fighting
[ 2013.09.20 00:26:56 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > but let's both kill jhole if they try to come =)
[ 2013.09.20 00:27:14 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > well in this case it's about the ego of a dickhead named jester
[ 2013.09.20 00:27:50 ] Longinius Spear > I heard you don't like him
[ 2013.09.20 00:28:04 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > nah, he's kind of a tool
[ 2013.09.20 00:28:10 ] Longinius Spear > hope you don't take us personally responsible
[ 2013.09.20 00:28:13 ] Longinius Spear > we are just along for the ride
[ 2013.09.20 00:28:18 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > awoxed us while we were just starting out
[ 2013.09.20 00:28:49 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > nah but it would be cool if you could red him during/after the fight hehe
[ 2013.09.20 00:29:45 ] Longinius Spear > We don't keep blues.. we just fight... we would gladly help you in the future if you had some good fights we could help with

I mean this btw. If you fight, you are OK in our book. 

[ 2013.09.20 00:31:18 ] Longinius Spear > You set me to red btw.. lol whats that all about?
[ 2013.09.20 00:31:50 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > i did?
[ 2013.09.20 00:32:06 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > ah yeah just so my guys know if they see you... they are probably about to fight
[ 2013.09.20 00:32:07 ] Longinius Spear > I got a mail says you aadded me as a contact.. as red
[ 2013.09.20 00:32:31 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > personally?
[ 2013.09.20 00:32:44 ] Longinius Spear > yep
[ 2013.09.20 00:32:57 ] Longinius Spear > i laughed , I wasn't mad
[ 2013.09.20 00:33:03 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > haha
[ 2013.09.20 00:33:09 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > i use it more for organizing than anything else
[ 2013.09.20 00:33:12 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > but atm you're neut to me
[ 2013.09.20 00:33:17 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > orange to the corp looks like
[ 2013.09.20 00:33:26 ] Longinius Spear > ack! orange!
[ 2013.09.20 00:33:29 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > oh no i lied SUS is orange to me
[ 2013.09.20 00:33:38 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > hey man i gotta keep track of people who are likely to kill me =D
[ 2013.09.20 00:33:59 ] Longinius Spear > bahh.. all nuets are out to kill you
[ 2013.09.20 00:35:43 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > yeah, but like, ESPECIALLY about to kill

SET MY WHOLE CORP TO ORANGE ! THE NERVE! (jk.. honestly everyone I deal with is red)

 [ 2013.09.20 00:39:09 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > anyway i don't mind you killing me but i do mind jhole getting help from you, that's kinda gay
[ 2013.09.20 00:39:10 ] Longinius Spear > You guys are a whily bunch..
[ 2013.09.20 00:39:24 ] Longinius Spear > We aren't giving him help other than this fight
[ 2013.09.20 00:39:37 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > haha yeah i know
[ 2013.09.20 00:39:48 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > we like GF but this would be a massacre
[ 2013.09.20 00:40:03 ] Longinius Spear > He fights, in worm hole space. people who fight stay. Those are our rules
[ 2013.09.20 00:40:06 ] Longinius Spear > You know this
[ 2013.09.20 00:40:16 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > i know i know

People forget how most (making assumptions here, I just know that's how WE work) of wormhole pvp groups work.  If you fight, put forward a consistant effort to give back to Bob, you are OK in our books. Who wants to remove people who provide good fights. Fuck that!


[ 2013.09.20 00:40:17 ] Longinius Spear > Politics aside
[ 2013.09.20 00:40:17 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > i'm not the FC
[ 2013.09.20 00:40:40 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > well
[ 2013.09.20 00:40:46 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > i'll lobby to welp into you
[ 2013.09.20 00:40:58 ] Longinius Spear > You won't welp, you have more don't you?
[ 2013.09.20 00:40:59 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > if y'all kill jhole's people first/during
[ 2013.09.20 00:41:08 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > more newbies =)
[ 2013.09.20 00:41:38 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > no way in hell i'm giving jhole KMs
[ 2013.09.20 00:42:32 ] Longinius Spear > aww man don't take it that  personal
[ 2013.09.20 00:42:55 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > nono this one is personal
[ 2013.09.20 00:43:03 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > only vs jester personally

Dude. Take your pain. Put it in a box. Bury it, and move on. Lets hug it out!

[ 2013.09.20 00:43:27 ] Longinius Spear > I still love you ADP. Nothing but mad love for ya
[ 2013.09.20 00:44:09 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > haha back at you man
[ 2013.09.20 00:49:07 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > ok well
[ 2013.09.20 00:49:23 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > remember when you guys came with psychomonk
[ 2013.09.20 00:49:57 ] Longinius Spear > Yea, You are seeing a trend of teaming up with content creators
[ 2013.09.20 00:50:05 ] Longinius Spear > we are also content creators
[ 2013.09.20 00:50:20 ] Longinius Spear > If you guys had content we would help you too.. for reals!
[ 2013.09.20 00:51:05 ] Longinius Spear > If jester doesn't fight, willyou fight us?
[ 2013.09.20 00:51:27 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > I knew I should mailed you prior to doing this OP hehe

True. If you told us to stay out prior as a favor, I think I would have asked my dudes to stand down. 

[ 2013.09.20 00:51:33 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > i thought jhole might have some batphones or what have you
[ 2013.09.20 00:51:43 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > hey you know we fight whenever you show up
[ 2013.09.20 00:51:51 ] Longinius Spear > bah.. we are hardly a bat phone.. we are just friendly folk who like to fight

I wanted to see if Jester was the reason they weren't fighting. If thats the case we would have told Jester to go home. No reason one guy should wreck everyone elses fun. 


[ 2013.09.20 00:52:26 ] Longinius Spear > I'm serious though if you are, if we tell jester to go home.. will you fight us?
[ 2013.09.20 00:53:22 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > ohhh
[ 2013.09.20 00:53:28 ] a DAMN PATRIOT > i'll see if i can convince my FC


We caught a few BNI as they didn't follow instructions of their FC, but the main fleet clearly outnumbered us and it would have been a hell of a throw down.

http://underwear.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19697344 
http://underwear.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19697085
http://underwear.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=19697472


ADP closed convo shortly after, and his fleet logged off. 

This is one of ADP's  Alts.

[ 2013.09.20 00:59:43 ] Longinius Spear > :)
[ 2013.09.20 00:59:49 ] Qriste > heh
[ 2013.09.20 00:59:52 ] Qriste > yeahhh so our FC had other plans
[ 2013.09.20 01:00:01 ] Longinius Spear > no worries
[ 2013.09.20 01:00:02 ] Qriste > I asked him if we could fight you
[ 2013.09.20 01:00:13 ] Qriste > he said our newbies were too poor for a welp of that size
[ 2013.09.20 01:01:02 ] Qriste > soo... we're logging onto sisi to fuck around
[ 2013.09.20 01:01:02 ] Longinius Spear > Don't undock what you can't lose
[ 2013.09.20 01:01:08 ] Qriste > right?
[ 2013.09.20 01:01:21 ] Qriste > i asked him to fight you if you sent jhole away
[ 2013.09.20 01:01:26 ] Qriste > swear to god lol
[ 2013.09.20 01:01:30 ] Qriste > but he didn't want to
[ 2013.09.20 01:01:36 ] Qriste > *sigh*

Another nail in the coffin BNI. You guys are getting quite the rep of blue balling people who come to you for content. Kind of a bummer. 

[ 2013.09.20 01:02:27 ] Longinius Spear > No biggie man. Do what ya gata, i know how it is
[ 2013.09.20 01:02:36 ] Qriste > yeah fsho
[ 2013.09.20 01:02:46 ] Qriste > we should set up some more fights though
[ 2013.09.20 01:02:58 ] Qriste > everyone who did that brawl with you guys last time said it was the most fun they had in quite some time =)
[ 2013.09.20 01:02:58 ] Longinius Spear > Or roams or anything. We team up with anyone
[ 2013.09.20 01:03:07 ] Longinius Spear > Totally!
[ 2013.09.20 01:03:11 ] Qriste > sweet
[ 2013.09.20 01:04:19 ] Longinius Spear > Alright man. GL! Till next time
[ 2013.09.20 01:05:00 ] Qriste > tyty 7o7o
[ 2013.09.20 01:05:07 ] Longinius Spear > 7o


I give Drop bears a grade of B-   Fellow cool wormholers who do put up a fight when it comes calling. Great guys.

I give the FC (guessing it wasn't a Drop Bear) from BNI a fucking  F.  Keep your 'risk adverse loss mails matter, bull shit out of my W-space.