I keep getting these mails from people who either thank me for the C13 backpacking idea or want to comment on how they have improved it.
I'm cool with both! I really enjoy hearing from people that I inspired them to play the game more and enjoy themselves. This game is too good to not try new things.
During an interview with some people for ISO5 (I wasn't interviewing, I was just there to listen and say funny things once in a while.) a guy said that he had a member in his corp who lived entirely in a C13 after reading my post. Not a backpacking trip, but legit living in it long term because of what I wrote in the past.
Well, I got another mail from someone, so I thought I would share it with everyone. Enjoy!
"Hi, Continuing here the reading of your past adventures. I cannot post comments on your blog at work and my iphone bugs... so this is only FYI but you can feel free to share the intel.
About the C13 backpacking operation…
I did the quite the same with 2 toons : a wolf (nos, AB, scram just in case…, gyros and ancillary armor rep, dps rigs, depot, mtu) and a thrasher (salvage tackle for rigs, prototype cloak, all the rest was salvagers and co-pro /cargo expanders, maybe a prop offline when I need to travel/jump). The wolf did the refit/scanning.
Once everything was scanned down, I used to activate all gas sites and ore sites. I warped to a site, locked the very few sleepers, dropped the mtu even if they were very close, killed them, scooped mtu and loot, moved to next site. This is VERY quick and I could run the site by the time the enemies found were I was.
I took precautions to warp through a safe before moving to the next site (in case a covops was watching me), then warped to a site on the other side of the system so the combat probes were scanning a wrong place. To put it in a nutshell, I made it difficult for the hunters and ran the gas/ore sites so fast that I saw they destroyer land on me only twice (but I already entered warp^^). I ran ALL gas/ore sites with them chasing me. And you know there are tons of them. This was helping me actually because it was difficult for them to find the signature I was in with the 5-15° angle Dscan.
The troll part is that while I was blitz-running sites with the wolf, I was also blitz-salvaging them in a random order with the thrasher. The mtu had regrouped the wrecks so this was just warping at 0, locking max 5 targets (gas and ore sites have few sleepers) and spread salvagers. By the time I aligned my safe, the wrecks had disappeared and I was warping out.They tried to catch both my wolf and my thrasher without success. But the frig aligns fast and the thrasher aligns as soon as it lands so keeping Dscan close range was ok even with dictors. That was kinda sport though to multibox with only one screen. And I’d rather do it with a mate than alone.
To secure my loot, I just kept it in the thrasher while afk or logged out (so nobody had clues someone was living here) and just dropped it in a non aligned safe while I was running sites. And every 50 min or so, I scooped it up and jettisoned it again so that the can did not despawn !
The only thing I feared was :- a bomber decloaking close to my thrasher to tackle it (but why would you bring a bomber in a C13 ?...)- a dictor cloacked close to one of my unsalvaged wrecks, waiting for my thrasherThis did not happen. I only regret later I did not bait the confessor hunting me in an ordinary gas site reservoir, the one with the 5 sentries. I know my wolf can speed tank them. The confessor can probably too. But if he doesn’t know the trick and is not fast at burning for a decent transversal when he lands, he might have had a funny welcome surprise. xD
Btw, I soloed vital core gas sites with the wolf. Sweat, thrill, isk and pride ! The difficulty was to go from one BS to another with the AB without being capped out and sometimes the BS was far the one from the others. No cap meant no AB, so no speed tank so… possible minmatar wreck on Dscan.
Why the wolf ? because I focused my main on minmatar ships and I cannot fly svipul. But also because guns do not use cap and sleeper neut. In my opinion, the resist profile of the missiles fitted vengeance sounds to be the best frig to use : you speed tank your armor resist holes and save lows for dps.
Finally, the data site that blew your confessor is a DED (Ghost) site. You can only hack 2 cans before gtfo, no matter how fast you are with hacking. I’m damn fast and I lost a few cheetahs trying 3 cans… Tanking this site is hard work : a frig cannot, I’m not even sure a stratios can. If you want to hack the 4 cans, you need a mate hacking while you hack. Make sure you decloak at the same time because this triggers a timer for the explosion and incoming super-rats. --Tecka"
Wednesday, January 20, 2016
Wednesday, January 6, 2016
ECM too Stronk
Our story begins with a gank attempt that failed.
Someone was flying a tornado around in a C2 and doing frostline sites.
We saw on at a few different points during the gank attempt there was a stratios in system and a proteus. Thinking the tornado was bait, of course we were going to bite it. We did our best to beat the tornado to the high sec connection with a HIC before he warped, but he was watching Dscan and warped before the bubble went up. O well, not every cast gets a fish, we moved on.
Shortly after....
Someone reported in that a person named Riozuil was shouting something in local about "ISO gen 5..... come out to playyyyyy"
Not wanting to disappoint, I opened a convo.
[ 2016.01.06 20:55:35 ] Riozuil > hai
[ 2016.01.06 20:55:50 ] Longinius Spear > Someone was talking in local that you wanted to fight
[ 2016.01.06 20:55:59 ] Longinius Spear > is this still true?
[ 2016.01.06 20:56:09 ] Riozuil > Sitting 13km off the highsec in my mega
[ 2016.01.06 20:56:25 ] Longinius Spear > yea, thats not going to work for us
[ 2016.01.06 20:56:54 ] Longinius Spear > any chance you could be some place else?
[ 2016.01.06 20:56:55 ] Riozuil > Alright girly man.
[ 2016.01.06 20:57:15 ] Riozuil > No because I want to get my pod out, and last time you bubbled the exit for my alt
[ 2016.01.06 20:57:41 ] Longinius Spear > Well, we can agree no pods?
[ 2016.01.06 20:58:21 ] Riozuil > No offense I dont trust you. You can check my backup easily by putting someone in highsec
[ 2016.01.06 20:58:33 ] Riozuil > We have 4 characters and 2 players
[ 2016.01.06 20:58:38 ] Longinius Spear > I take it you don't know us, or me for that matter
[ 2016.01.06 20:58:53 ] Riozuil > plus at this point you guys probably have logi which makes me fighing pointless anyway =P
[ 2016.01.06 20:59:11 ] Longinius Spear > This is me.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ddR7W4LmR8
[ 2016.01.06 20:59:52 ] Longinius Spear > I don't break my word, i'm respectful and I like explosions.
[ 2016.01.06 21:02:03 ] Longinius Spear > we don't have logi, but we do outnumber you
[ 2016.01.06 21:02:39 ] Riozuil > What fight would you want to have then?
[ 2016.01.06 21:02:41 ] Riozuil > and where
[ 2016.01.06 21:03:16 ] Longinius Spear > since no fight could truely be fair, what would you consider engaging? T1? less than 5?
[ 2016.01.06 21:03:26 ] Longinius Spear > battleship 1v1 :)
[ 2016.01.06 21:03:35 ] Longinius Spear > I'm down for anything
[ 2016.01.06 21:06:14 ] Riozuil > I'd fight up to 5 cruisers without logi
[ 2016.01.06 21:06:40 ] Riozuil > or bs 1v1
[ 2016.01.06 21:07:21 ] Longinius Spear > 5 cruisers no logi lets do this :)
[ 2016.01.06 21:07:41 ] Riozuil > and no bubbles on the hs lol
[ 2016.01.06 21:07:57 ] Riozuil > I may not have an expensive pod, but its a pain in the ass getting out of amarr when I'm -4.0
[ 2016.01.06 21:08:18 ] Longinius Spear > if you get poded, i'll replace it personally
[ 2016.01.06 21:08:54 ] Riozuil > mmk sounds good. My alt may or may not make an appearance as well, good?
[ 2016.01.06 21:09:11 ] Longinius Spear > we're bring 5 cruisers now
[ 2016.01.06 21:09:46 ] Riozuil > and is this including my buddy and his alt? or are they out? Up to you
[ 2016.01.06 21:10:36 ] Riozuil > We have no logi or cancer falcons on any toons
[ 2016.01.06 21:11:01 ] Longinius Spear > cancer falcons lol
[ 2016.01.06 21:11:07 ] Riozuil > =P
[ 2016.01.06 21:12:46 ] Riozuil > So other characters yes or no?
[ 2016.01.06 21:13:00 ] Riozuil > Just so we dont have my buddy join midfight and get everyone pissed lol
[ 2016.01.06 21:13:46 ] Longinius Spear > 5 cruisers is what we are bringing. lets dance :)
[ 2016.01.06 21:14:05 ] Riozuil > Meet you at the sun yo
[ 2016.01.06 21:14:13 ] Longinius Spear > but the glare haha ..
[ 2016.01.06 21:14:19 ] Riozuil > Crybaby
We quickly formed up 5 cruisers and went out to fight some people.
His mega that he brought to the sun.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/51200546/
Assuming his friends Huginn that also went to die?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/51200512/
Right as the mega dropped, this landed on grid with us and we warped off. This screen shot was taken from the next wormhole in the chain.
Confessors not wanting to deal with our kitting ships took off. GG.
Shortly after I get this mail.
--------------------------------
Just Wanted to Say.
From: Riozuil
Sent: 2016.01.06 21:25
To: Longinius Spear,
Next time you organize an "Honorable" fight leave out the Cancer ECM.
Fly a little more Dangerous,
Rio
--------------------------------
Re: Just Wanted to Say.
From: Longinius Spear
Sent: 2016.01.06 22:03
To: Riozuil,
My apologies,
As my recollection stands, I asked, "What would you engage, no pods.?" You said 5 cruisers. You didn't say t1,t2,t3 or NO ECM. We could have showed up in 4 neut legions and a Jamgu under that. That guy flying the blackbird is our new bro and that was the only ship he could bring. It fit well into our fleet so we said what the heck.
We also didn't know if it was a trap or not, hence the kite'ee fleet. Our fears were realized when the 9 confessors and Dictor gang landed on us. We know it wasn't you, but nothing is certain in wspace.
I understand that ECM is a force multiplier, even in the hands of a newbro, again, we never said fair(which can't really be done imo), we said 5 cruisers, no pods.
Things you could have done differently.
1. Mobile Depot with an ECCM swap, you were sitting uselessly on grid for a VERY long time. At least it would have pulled the dps off you while we tried to encap it. If it did get up, bam, blackbird dealt with.
2. Fit ECCM on a solo mega. Did you honestly think no one would play with it, or did you think your strong feelings about ECM would protect you?
3. Learned from your engagement and not cryed.
I'm sad you had a negative ISK interaction with us, but at least I hope you learned something.
-- Spear
Re: Just Wanted to Say.
From: Riozuil
Sent: 2016.01.06 22:07
To: Longinius Spear,
I had no problems with T2's or T3's. I would have RATHER fought 4 neut legions. At least there is a counter to that. Even if I had ECCM its the dumbest mechanic ever and can Jam regardless of strength. Just sucks that you put yourself forward as a trustworthy guy and then bring an organized gank fleet to a fight. I had no illusions I would make it out of that fight alive, I was hoping to take one with me and have some lolz. Not being able to fight back is SOOOO much fun. Have fun making wormhole space less fun for everyone. I or my corp certainly wont be fighting you again.
Have fun,
Rio.
Someone was flying a tornado around in a C2 and doing frostline sites.
We saw on at a few different points during the gank attempt there was a stratios in system and a proteus. Thinking the tornado was bait, of course we were going to bite it. We did our best to beat the tornado to the high sec connection with a HIC before he warped, but he was watching Dscan and warped before the bubble went up. O well, not every cast gets a fish, we moved on.
Shortly after....
Someone reported in that a person named Riozuil was shouting something in local about "ISO gen 5..... come out to playyyyyy"
Not wanting to disappoint, I opened a convo.
[ 2016.01.06 20:55:35 ] Riozuil > hai
[ 2016.01.06 20:55:50 ] Longinius Spear > Someone was talking in local that you wanted to fight
[ 2016.01.06 20:55:59 ] Longinius Spear > is this still true?
[ 2016.01.06 20:56:09 ] Riozuil > Sitting 13km off the highsec in my mega
[ 2016.01.06 20:56:25 ] Longinius Spear > yea, thats not going to work for us
[ 2016.01.06 20:56:54 ] Longinius Spear > any chance you could be some place else?
[ 2016.01.06 20:56:55 ] Riozuil > Alright girly man.
[ 2016.01.06 20:57:15 ] Riozuil > No because I want to get my pod out, and last time you bubbled the exit for my alt
[ 2016.01.06 20:57:41 ] Longinius Spear > Well, we can agree no pods?
[ 2016.01.06 20:58:21 ] Riozuil > No offense I dont trust you. You can check my backup easily by putting someone in highsec
[ 2016.01.06 20:58:33 ] Riozuil > We have 4 characters and 2 players
[ 2016.01.06 20:58:38 ] Longinius Spear > I take it you don't know us, or me for that matter
[ 2016.01.06 20:58:53 ] Riozuil > plus at this point you guys probably have logi which makes me fighing pointless anyway =P
[ 2016.01.06 20:59:11 ] Longinius Spear > This is me.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ddR7W4LmR8
[ 2016.01.06 20:59:52 ] Longinius Spear > I don't break my word, i'm respectful and I like explosions.
[ 2016.01.06 21:02:03 ] Longinius Spear > we don't have logi, but we do outnumber you
[ 2016.01.06 21:02:39 ] Riozuil > What fight would you want to have then?
[ 2016.01.06 21:02:41 ] Riozuil > and where
[ 2016.01.06 21:03:16 ] Longinius Spear > since no fight could truely be fair, what would you consider engaging? T1? less than 5?
[ 2016.01.06 21:03:26 ] Longinius Spear > battleship 1v1 :)
[ 2016.01.06 21:03:35 ] Longinius Spear > I'm down for anything
[ 2016.01.06 21:06:14 ] Riozuil > I'd fight up to 5 cruisers without logi
[ 2016.01.06 21:06:40 ] Riozuil > or bs 1v1
[ 2016.01.06 21:07:21 ] Longinius Spear > 5 cruisers no logi lets do this :)
[ 2016.01.06 21:07:41 ] Riozuil > and no bubbles on the hs lol
[ 2016.01.06 21:07:57 ] Riozuil > I may not have an expensive pod, but its a pain in the ass getting out of amarr when I'm -4.0
[ 2016.01.06 21:08:18 ] Longinius Spear > if you get poded, i'll replace it personally
[ 2016.01.06 21:08:54 ] Riozuil > mmk sounds good. My alt may or may not make an appearance as well, good?
[ 2016.01.06 21:09:11 ] Longinius Spear > we're bring 5 cruisers now
[ 2016.01.06 21:09:46 ] Riozuil > and is this including my buddy and his alt? or are they out? Up to you
[ 2016.01.06 21:10:36 ] Riozuil > We have no logi or cancer falcons on any toons
[ 2016.01.06 21:11:01 ] Longinius Spear > cancer falcons lol
[ 2016.01.06 21:11:07 ] Riozuil > =P
[ 2016.01.06 21:12:46 ] Riozuil > So other characters yes or no?
[ 2016.01.06 21:13:00 ] Riozuil > Just so we dont have my buddy join midfight and get everyone pissed lol
[ 2016.01.06 21:13:46 ] Longinius Spear > 5 cruisers is what we are bringing. lets dance :)
[ 2016.01.06 21:14:05 ] Riozuil > Meet you at the sun yo
[ 2016.01.06 21:14:13 ] Longinius Spear > but the glare haha ..
[ 2016.01.06 21:14:19 ] Riozuil > Crybaby
We quickly formed up 5 cruisers and went out to fight some people.
His mega that he brought to the sun.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/51200546/
Assuming his friends Huginn that also went to die?
https://zkillboard.com/kill/51200512/
Right as the mega dropped, this landed on grid with us and we warped off. This screen shot was taken from the next wormhole in the chain.
Confessors not wanting to deal with our kitting ships took off. GG.
Shortly after I get this mail.
--------------------------------
Just Wanted to Say.
From: Riozuil
Sent: 2016.01.06 21:25
To: Longinius Spear,
Next time you organize an "Honorable" fight leave out the Cancer ECM.
Fly a little more Dangerous,
Rio
--------------------------------
Re: Just Wanted to Say.
From: Longinius Spear
Sent: 2016.01.06 22:03
To: Riozuil,
My apologies,
As my recollection stands, I asked, "What would you engage, no pods.?" You said 5 cruisers. You didn't say t1,t2,t3 or NO ECM. We could have showed up in 4 neut legions and a Jamgu under that. That guy flying the blackbird is our new bro and that was the only ship he could bring. It fit well into our fleet so we said what the heck.
We also didn't know if it was a trap or not, hence the kite'ee fleet. Our fears were realized when the 9 confessors and Dictor gang landed on us. We know it wasn't you, but nothing is certain in wspace.
I understand that ECM is a force multiplier, even in the hands of a newbro, again, we never said fair(which can't really be done imo), we said 5 cruisers, no pods.
Things you could have done differently.
1. Mobile Depot with an ECCM swap, you were sitting uselessly on grid for a VERY long time. At least it would have pulled the dps off you while we tried to encap it. If it did get up, bam, blackbird dealt with.
2. Fit ECCM on a solo mega. Did you honestly think no one would play with it, or did you think your strong feelings about ECM would protect you?
3. Learned from your engagement and not cryed.
I'm sad you had a negative ISK interaction with us, but at least I hope you learned something.
-- Spear
Re: Just Wanted to Say.
From: Riozuil
Sent: 2016.01.06 22:07
To: Longinius Spear,
I had no problems with T2's or T3's. I would have RATHER fought 4 neut legions. At least there is a counter to that. Even if I had ECCM its the dumbest mechanic ever and can Jam regardless of strength. Just sucks that you put yourself forward as a trustworthy guy and then bring an organized gank fleet to a fight. I had no illusions I would make it out of that fight alive, I was hoping to take one with me and have some lolz. Not being able to fight back is SOOOO much fun. Have fun making wormhole space less fun for everyone. I or my corp certainly wont be fighting you again.
Have fun,
Rio.
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