Monday, July 24, 2017
J155616 - Baiting Bait
Its nice to know that even years later, people that you've enjoyed spending time with still manage to find you at just the right time.
Since my last post I've been trying to get fights from the people of J155616. I think the main active corp in the hole is named "Unreasonable Bastards" with a sub feeder corp called "Reasonable Bastards". I don't know if they some how own the hole or are renting it or its an alt corp, I honestly haven't figured it out yet. There a lot of corp names in this hole. One group owns the POCOs, one owns the Fortizar another owns a Astrahus.. Its crazy. Honestly it doesn't matter as long as they fight.
In the past week or so I've moved into target (J155616) multiple alts and I'm up to 3 active accounts deep into this venture. First I started with some fun and tried to dual box two sniper (Rapid HML) ravens. I was going to go bigger, but I'm still just getting back into the game right now and don't really want to commit too much.
My targets didn't disappoint and brought the heat. I was streaming it and shared the stream with my targets, because fuck it, why not?
They were able to bring a good fight, but sadly outmatched me with a really good warp in. https://zkillboard.com/kill/63517884/
RIP one sniper raven. The goal of that ship was to keep jumping around and pew off cruiser sized targets. Sadly, they only brought other battleships and my ravens were very cap sensitive. Once they got that warp in and landed at 0 on me, I failed to MJD to safety in an effort to keep my two dual box ships together.
After I blew up, they tried to trap me out of the wormhole by bubbling the high sec hole. I was going to come back with more ships and fight, but it seemed they didn't really want me there with them in the first place.
The following days I attempted to get their attention by shooting at one of the POCOs with two bombers. On the sly I kept a cloaky legion waiting to jump on whatever their response would be.
Only one guy responded and he bit the bomber bait with a tengu. I was milliseconds from locking him my legion before he popped my stationary bomber. https://zkillboard.com/kill/63588032/
That would have been a great fight, but he wasn't having it and ran. The next thing that happened made me slightly sad. The tengu pilot logged in a Nid. /sigh
Who brings a carrier to a fight in a C2?!?!
Well, looks like the fun police arrived.
I spend the next few nights doing the best I could to scan out holes, jump on targets, but looks like with me living in their hole, they just aren't that active right now. Kind of a shame, someone brings snacks to your house and you don't open the door :(.
Tonight tho...
I'm in target hole with a cloaky Legion, bomber and a falcon. I notice two different groups using the high sec connection. One a group called "The clown car" and the other "A band apart." (don't forget the dot). Two groups not connected with the people who live in target. 3 potential targets! WEEE.
I drop a drag bubble from one of the connecting holes to the high sec. Sadly nothing really amazing happens, some interceptors saw me before I was able to make anything with the camp. The good part is, I managed to annoy both "the clown car" "a band apart" at the same time.
I watch the connecting holes a little longer and eventually commit to attacking a lone hauler belonging to a band apart. It was bait, I knew it when I attacked it, but never not bite AMIRTE!?!
Onyx drops along with a Sac. and I barely make it out with my ship. YAY!
Still watching all connecting holes with my characters. Clown car and a band apart begin fighting in clown cars home hole. I watch about 7 ships belonging to a band apart come and go from clown cars home. Not wanting to be left out, I mention the high sec connection location to a friend named Shaded Rose I knew from SUSU 2.0.
He brings a fleet to the high sec :) and proceeds to jump into target with a scout, mapping out all the holes. I share with him the sig names all the parties are using and figure I could get something going.
Now, I'm positive that clown car and a band apart know about my legion because of the failed gank attempts earlier. Good time for me to reveal myself ! Sure enough, I jump into "A band aparts" home hole only to find they are trying to roll with a raven.
I lock it up with the cloaky legion and it scram/webs me. O dear its a tarp! I see on D scan. HFI and sleipniers...
I tell Shaded bring the fleet... O DEAR its a trap of a trap.. DOUBLE TRAP! Shaded brings the fleet from high sec and warps to A Band Aparts home hole.. Murder happens.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/63679791/ Sleip #1
https://zkillboard.com/kill/63679804/ Sleip#2
https://zkillboard.com/kill/63679798/ The bait raven I baited.. :)
I managed to get on that kill and do top damage with my Legion!! yay..
Always nice to have friends outside the friends you are shooting at. Special thanks to Shaded, Doom Gen and love of my EVE life, the Windam Wizard himself, Glyndi!
Sneaky Sneaky.. I know but that's wormholes, you never really know whats going to happen.
Saturday, July 15, 2017
Making a Friend
Well its been about 5 months to the day since my last post. Needless to say, but I will, I've taken a break.
It wasn't a rage quit, it wasn't any particular action by any one group, party or happenstance. I just didn't like playing anymore.
My absence from the EVE has really made me reevaluate what I want out of an internet game. What brings me joy and keeps me coming back isn't 'something new', which other games offered. I figured out that playing with friends hits 9 out of 10 points on my chart of happiness.
I've always told people who just started playing EVE, JOIN A CORP! ASAP. Its not because of what the corp can bring to you, its because you need them as human interaction. EVE isn't about you vs the game, because the game has no clear end, or goal.
There are those who think gathering ISK or ships or mods is the eventual goal. They refuse to interact with people out of fear they might lose some of that "item/money", this might work for a bit, but in the world of EVE the ways of making money and things to spend them on are a bottomless pit. The game will simply let you go full retard with multiple accounts, multiple billions of items and money, run by you in exactly the way you want it to be run. But to what end?
Eventually, you'll reach a stopping point, a number in your mind that you don't exactly know, but know that you've past it and the challenge isn't there anymore. You look for more challenges, you find them, but eventually those two dry up. The number gets bigger and bigger, but you keep passing your point of, darn, I should just stop doing this now.
I got to that point. Worse, I made internal rules of expected behavior and outcomes when I encountered other people. I'd ask new people I've met the same set of questions to narrow down exactly how to deal with them.
1. Do you require Ship tags.. if yes.. I yell at them about how dumb it is. If they say No, I ask why as the next question. If they happen to answer correctly to me, I'd continue with the next line of questions.
2. Do you require a API.. if yes.. I yell at them..
This goes on and on till I eventually rule them out for whatever invented reason I come up with in my head.
The thing is, if you ask the same questions from people, and you ask enough of them, you will eventually just get the same answers. You hear the answers you want, you know their play. The risk isn't there, because you know what to expect, without risk, there isn't challenge, without challenge, why the fuck am I even trying?
Back to burn out because I've "done it all" in my head. Even the human side of the game. I know your reaction, given the circumstances I've created for you. blah blah blah blah.. Back to boredom and back to not playing EVE.
Well that sucks!
So here I am. The saltest of vets seeking a fresh perspective I haven't seen yet. So I logged in and decided to fit up one of the new T3 Cruisers and dive into some holes.
I've talked to a couple recruiting wormhole groups, one was someone who I've had past negative dealings with so I ruled that out. I talked to another group who said they were part of a C1 group, but when I asked why they had their FF set to legal, they gave me some fishy responses. I think it was a reverse safari corp, so I passed.
Since I despise local chat and wormholes are my home, I said fuck it, started up the stream for some sniper action, and waited for them to find me. Started broadcasting my location to the stream watchers and jumping into a wormhole connected directly to Amarr.
All went well till I nearly cross jumped a Tengu in a connecting C2, Tengu scout vs a proteus scout, sure, I'll take that fight, I waited for him to uncloak, he cloaked up before I could lock him. I jumped in for quick look to see if they dispatched anything I could kill, nothing, so I jumped back.
He reveled the fact he was baiting for friends when he uncloaked off the hole a couple minutes later. I would have tackled him right off the bat, but a few minutes later he just accidentally turns off his cloak he so quickly activated minutes before.. NOPE, thats bait and not the fun fight kind.
I activate one of my other accounts to bring some back up if needed.. suddenly I see a bhaal on the hole. So its proteus scout vs Tengu and Bhaal. Not the best way to bait at this point, because I'd have to be a total idiot to do that, and total idiots don't fly proteus.
He opens a chat with me and asks to brawl!.. I said sure 1v1 Bhaal. I don't think he was expecting that response.But being a sporting guy he agrees.
This whole time I'm expected to lose my bhaal by a double cross or at least a 3rd party, but fuck it, its only ISK, and I might make a friend.
We 1v1 and I win, I don't blow him up, two reasons, I didn't really care to win that much, the other, I couldn't prevent the MJD with my disruptor. :P
Then he comes with a domi, still only 1 person, then he even brings a DST to drop me off more Navy 800 Cap charges!
Each time I just let the ship warp away, good fights with a stranger, and just for the fun of it.
He says that he's have such a good time that I deserve a KM. He brings a hurricane and I blow it up. He brings a drake and warps off, he's about to bring a cyclone, but I remind him that if he simply brought something smaller and flew a little different, my large guns couldn't hit him.
He brings a Vexor and honestly it was one of his hardest hitting ships, but I eventually chase it off with my drones.
Then he brings a Amarr assault frig (forget the name) and he orbits me till he runs out of missiles, then runs.This whole time, I'm streaming our fights on this wormhole, totally expecting to be 3rd partied by someone, anyone, but nothing. It was just he and I sharing a good time.
Later I discovered, and I mean that I didn't know it, I was flying that Bhaal in a full slave clone. That bhaal was faction fit and had an EHP of 133,000k. I went on a suicide run into an unscouted hole, to fight someone I didn't know, in a 2.6 bil pod, in a 900m isk ship. The entire time, I'm telling everyone watching where I am and how to find me over a twitch stream. I'm such an idiot!
But here's the thing, I had fun.
The key was me putting myself, my expectations in check, taking a risk and interacting with a stranger.
So here's to you Hobb lol
Thank you for letting me have fun with this game one more time.
It wasn't a rage quit, it wasn't any particular action by any one group, party or happenstance. I just didn't like playing anymore.
My absence from the EVE has really made me reevaluate what I want out of an internet game. What brings me joy and keeps me coming back isn't 'something new', which other games offered. I figured out that playing with friends hits 9 out of 10 points on my chart of happiness.
I've always told people who just started playing EVE, JOIN A CORP! ASAP. Its not because of what the corp can bring to you, its because you need them as human interaction. EVE isn't about you vs the game, because the game has no clear end, or goal.
There are those who think gathering ISK or ships or mods is the eventual goal. They refuse to interact with people out of fear they might lose some of that "item/money", this might work for a bit, but in the world of EVE the ways of making money and things to spend them on are a bottomless pit. The game will simply let you go full retard with multiple accounts, multiple billions of items and money, run by you in exactly the way you want it to be run. But to what end?
Eventually, you'll reach a stopping point, a number in your mind that you don't exactly know, but know that you've past it and the challenge isn't there anymore. You look for more challenges, you find them, but eventually those two dry up. The number gets bigger and bigger, but you keep passing your point of, darn, I should just stop doing this now.
I got to that point. Worse, I made internal rules of expected behavior and outcomes when I encountered other people. I'd ask new people I've met the same set of questions to narrow down exactly how to deal with them.
1. Do you require Ship tags.. if yes.. I yell at them about how dumb it is. If they say No, I ask why as the next question. If they happen to answer correctly to me, I'd continue with the next line of questions.
2. Do you require a API.. if yes.. I yell at them..
This goes on and on till I eventually rule them out for whatever invented reason I come up with in my head.
The thing is, if you ask the same questions from people, and you ask enough of them, you will eventually just get the same answers. You hear the answers you want, you know their play. The risk isn't there, because you know what to expect, without risk, there isn't challenge, without challenge, why the fuck am I even trying?
Back to burn out because I've "done it all" in my head. Even the human side of the game. I know your reaction, given the circumstances I've created for you. blah blah blah blah.. Back to boredom and back to not playing EVE.
Well that sucks!
So here I am. The saltest of vets seeking a fresh perspective I haven't seen yet. So I logged in and decided to fit up one of the new T3 Cruisers and dive into some holes.
I've talked to a couple recruiting wormhole groups, one was someone who I've had past negative dealings with so I ruled that out. I talked to another group who said they were part of a C1 group, but when I asked why they had their FF set to legal, they gave me some fishy responses. I think it was a reverse safari corp, so I passed.
Since I despise local chat and wormholes are my home, I said fuck it, started up the stream for some sniper action, and waited for them to find me. Started broadcasting my location to the stream watchers and jumping into a wormhole connected directly to Amarr.
All went well till I nearly cross jumped a Tengu in a connecting C2, Tengu scout vs a proteus scout, sure, I'll take that fight, I waited for him to uncloak, he cloaked up before I could lock him. I jumped in for quick look to see if they dispatched anything I could kill, nothing, so I jumped back.
He reveled the fact he was baiting for friends when he uncloaked off the hole a couple minutes later. I would have tackled him right off the bat, but a few minutes later he just accidentally turns off his cloak he so quickly activated minutes before.. NOPE, thats bait and not the fun fight kind.
I activate one of my other accounts to bring some back up if needed.. suddenly I see a bhaal on the hole. So its proteus scout vs Tengu and Bhaal. Not the best way to bait at this point, because I'd have to be a total idiot to do that, and total idiots don't fly proteus.
He opens a chat with me and asks to brawl!.. I said sure 1v1 Bhaal. I don't think he was expecting that response.But being a sporting guy he agrees.
This whole time I'm expected to lose my bhaal by a double cross or at least a 3rd party, but fuck it, its only ISK, and I might make a friend.
We 1v1 and I win, I don't blow him up, two reasons, I didn't really care to win that much, the other, I couldn't prevent the MJD with my disruptor. :P
Then he comes with a domi, still only 1 person, then he even brings a DST to drop me off more Navy 800 Cap charges!
Each time I just let the ship warp away, good fights with a stranger, and just for the fun of it.
He says that he's have such a good time that I deserve a KM. He brings a hurricane and I blow it up. He brings a drake and warps off, he's about to bring a cyclone, but I remind him that if he simply brought something smaller and flew a little different, my large guns couldn't hit him.
He brings a Vexor and honestly it was one of his hardest hitting ships, but I eventually chase it off with my drones.
Then he brings a Amarr assault frig (forget the name) and he orbits me till he runs out of missiles, then runs.This whole time, I'm streaming our fights on this wormhole, totally expecting to be 3rd partied by someone, anyone, but nothing. It was just he and I sharing a good time.
Later I discovered, and I mean that I didn't know it, I was flying that Bhaal in a full slave clone. That bhaal was faction fit and had an EHP of 133,000k. I went on a suicide run into an unscouted hole, to fight someone I didn't know, in a 2.6 bil pod, in a 900m isk ship. The entire time, I'm telling everyone watching where I am and how to find me over a twitch stream. I'm such an idiot!
But here's the thing, I had fun.
The key was me putting myself, my expectations in check, taking a risk and interacting with a stranger.
So here's to you Hobb lol
Thank you for letting me have fun with this game one more time.
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