Monday, June 24, 2013

Terrible A-Team







 TLDR: We find targets, and extort a spaceship from some other extortionists.

The A-Team was a feel good 1980s show with explosions, giant black dude (MR -T), and crazy white people. The A-Team by my understanding were some ex-special forces dudes who drove around in a giant van and solved problems. Most episodes were the A-Team finding some innocent person being exploited by a gang, bad guy, mobsters or whatever. They would come in and blow stuff up and get paid in hugs. I’m being overly general but that really was what I remember. I had a lunch box with Mr-T on it, and ate MR-T cereal.

Well last night, we had the opportunity to be the A-Team, but because EVE is evil and its player base are terrible people, we failed. 

Story

I logged in last night to find my guys trying to kill an Orca and scorpion in our static. They had just rolled into this C3 and noticed scout ships, an Orca, navy drake and a scorpion. Our scouts jumped into the C3 and worked out getting eyes on the ships to find most were piloted.

The typical reaction of a wormhole resident when a new hole opens in their home is to see who opened it. See if they are someone to be feared, killed or if it’s just a random explorer moving around. As hunters, we try and make people believe we are the random explorer, without giving too much intel.

My corp went off the assumption the people in the hole were bears and would want the hole closed, for privacy. We catch a great many battleships and orca because people just want to close a connecting hole before they get down to doing whatever it is they do.

Everyone in Jim either logged off/waiting at the log in screen or cloaked up. We cloaked up a double bubble interdictor and other t3 cloaking ships on the Jim side of the connecting hole. We watched the scout ship in the C3 drop probes and jump into Jim. They looked around, confirmed nobody was home. We were sure they would jump the orca and scorpion into Jim  to put mass on the WH to close it.

So we waited. 20 minutes and nothing.

Bored and wanting to try something different, we came to agreement, we would throw a bait gnosis into the hole to see if they would bite. Gnosis have a rep of being flown by noobs  and being totally bad. Ours has 120k tank 3 disruptors, 1 scram, flown by a one of my 08 pvp characters.  :)

I jumped the bait gnosis in and dropped probes (tech 1) Sitting at at planet 2 because it was closest to the Jim hole. Our eyes in the C3 explained the guys were doing nothing but getting in and out of a cloaky hauler. Random. Some guy in a gnosis is at one of your planets, scanning and you do nothing. I resolved the C3 system and recalled my probes.

 There were 3 connecting wormholes other than Jim. So in my Gnosis, I jumped through each one and back again, intentionally giving myself polarity!  Anyone watching me do this would clearly know I was retarded and couldn’t jump out. Great chance to gank my gnosis.  Nothing.

Baby dady (one of the scouts) said “Hay the guns on this POS are incaped” I said, “all of them?” he said “Yep”. 

Well this was random. These guys clearly were not biting bait so I asked what moon it was, and warped my gnosis at 0 and bounced off their POS, with them in it.  I expected the people in it to at least poke their heads out and pop shot me from the shields. Something, anything!!

I try and get their attention in local since I’m already on grid with the POS.

I say in local“Hay, who incapped your guns?”

This is the response in private.

[ 2013.06.24 01:28:39 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > moira. and villore accounts
[ 2013.06.24 01:28:46 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > they own the other POS <
[ 2013.06.24 01:28:48 ] Sir Lomax > who are they?
[ 2013.06.24 01:29:11 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > faction warfare group
[ 2013.06.24 01:29:17 ] Sir Lomax > O
[ 2013.06.24 01:29:27 ] Sir Lomax > are you being invaded?
[ 2013.06.24 01:29:31 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > lol ima big fan of you guys btw
[ 2013.06.24 01:29:36 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > love the podcast =D
[ 2013.06.24 01:29:52 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > and ya , they are trying to extort us
[ 2013.06.24 01:29:53 ] Sir Lomax > GD podcast.. wrecking another bait
[ 2013.06.24 01:29:59 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > bwahahaha
[ 2013.06.24 01:30:18 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > did they find an interesting way to kill reaper yet ?
[ 2013.06.24 01:30:25 ] Sir Lomax > You should fix this things guns
[ 2013.06.24 01:30:26 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > last i heard he was shooting random poco's
[ 2013.06.24 01:30:34 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > ya we're working on it
[ 2013.06.24 01:31:08 ] Sir Lomax > you all going to put up a fight?
[ 2013.06.24 01:31:12 ] Sir Lomax > very tense here
[ 2013.06.24 01:31:46 ] Sir Lomax > what ships did they encap you all with?
[ 2013.06.24 01:31:48 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > ya we're gunna puit up a fight ...we have shit numbers though
[ 2013.06.24 01:31:57 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > just bc's and logi
[ 2013.06.24 01:32:02 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > no bs's or caps
[ 2013.06.24 01:32:13 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > there were only two members online at the time
[ 2013.06.24 01:32:19 ] Sir Lomax > ahh
[ 2013.06.24 01:32:22 ] Sir Lomax > what was the price?
[ 2013.06.24 01:32:29 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > 25% of our monthly
[ 2013.06.24 01:32:34 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > we're mostly a mining corp
[ 2013.06.24 01:33:10 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > lol if susu wants to come around for th epews would love to graciously host you  = P
[ 2013.06.24 01:33:26 ] Sir Lomax > Well we would fight anyone honestly
[ 2013.06.24 01:33:34 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > yep i know = )
[ 2013.06.24 01:33:52 ] Sir Lomax > You pos looks ok to me.. you got stront and stuff?
[ 2013.06.24 01:33:59 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > ya our stront is full
[ 2013.06.24 01:34:01 ] Sir Lomax > You all just need a reper
[ 2013.06.24 01:34:10 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > ya we have one on site , just need to fit it
[ 2013.06.24 01:35:00 ] Sir Lomax > You should get on that, done asap
[ 2013.06.24 01:35:10 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > agreed

God damn IT!!!  That stupid podcast hosing up another perfectly good bait. They clearly knew what we are all about, and REALLY won’t bite this bait.

Everyone in the TS channel was cracking up. Cylin pipes up and says, the people who they are talking about have a MED POS with only ECM. “Let’s shoot it!”.

[2013.06.24 01:37:09 ] Sir Lomax > talking about this with the corp atm
[ 2013.06.24 01:37:32 ] Sir Lomax > We are going to take some pop shots at it.. for the giggles
[ 2013.06.24 01:37:41 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > us , or them  ?
[ 2013.06.24 01:37:50 ] Sir Lomax > havn't flipped the coin yet
[ 2013.06.24 01:37:52 ] Sir Lomax > hold on
[ 2013.06.24 01:38:00 ] Sir Lomax > jk.. them hahaha
[ 2013.06.24 01:38:04 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > lol

 At first I was like, fk that, I hate POS bashes, but then again these guys obviously bring it, because they have already incapped these other dudes POS. Maybe they will bring a fight! So I agreed. 


We jumped a bunch of stuff into the C3 and fly to the MED POS of the aggressors and start incappng mods.

Exploitation! Those terrible people.

We all agreed in coms this was a wormhole version of an A-Team episode. We would be the A-Team and help the innocent against the oppression of a greater power! Well kind of, cause our attention span really is quite short.  

Having arrived on grid with a band of Sentry Domi and rag tag battle cruisers, we started shooting at the POS. The POS didn’t shot back. O well, it was just ECM anyway. Halfway through the incapping of the ECM mods, the faction war guy in the POS starts talking in local. “Hay would you mind incapping a POC in here too?” We honestly gave it some thought, but then were distracted by a cat video.

The miner wanted to join the fleet in his scorpion we were trying to kill earlier. I gave him my word we wouldn’t shoot him.

[ 2013.06.24 01:39:51 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > we're pretty newb to wormhole
[ 2013.06.24 01:39:57 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > been out here a whole 10 days or so
[ 2013.06.24 01:40:18 ] Sir Lomax > You have my word we will not shoot you, but you should rep those things asap.. we are going to be using your holes for a bit.. lets see how many of them they log on :) Don't agreess us or the deals off fyi
[ 2013.06.24 01:40:34 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > copy that , we'll corp blue you
[ 2013.06.24 01:40:37 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > thanks = )
[ 2013.06.24 01:40:42 ] Sir Lomax > Don't do that...
[ 2013.06.24 01:40:49 ] Sir Lomax > never blue anyone in WHs..
[ 2013.06.24 01:41:16 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > heh , okies
[ 2013.06.24 01:46:53 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > thanks alot, really
[ 2013.06.24 01:48:17 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > their diplo just logged back in
[ 2013.06.24 01:48:25 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > be prepared for incoming
[ 2013.06.24 01:52:37 ] Sir Lomax > lol :)
[ 2013.06.24 01:53:14 ] Sir Lomax > They should set this thing to shoot back lol
[ 2013.06.24 01:53:46 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > we didn't even see guns on it , ecm only
[ 2013.06.24 01:53:59 ] Sir Lomax > Thier ecm isn't attacking us
[ 2013.06.24 01:54:06 ] Sir Lomax > gues they are friendly
[ 2013.06.24 01:55:15 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > lol
[ 2013.06.24 01:59:34 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > can i join in with my scorp  ?
[ 2013.06.24 02:00:48 ] Sir Lomax > sure join our fleet

 I opened up a convo with faction war guy and he said the following. 

[ 2013.06.24 02:45:45 ] Sir Lomax > so what are you guys doing in here?
[ 2013.06.24 02:46:32 ] Meriks Friggson > We're just hear to fund our pvp, we get bored time to time and a WH is a nice change of pace
[ 2013.06.24 02:46:44 ] Meriks Friggson > We mostly kill Caldari
[ 2013.06.24 02:46:53 ] Sir Lomax > Ahh
[ 2013.06.24 02:46:57 ] Meriks Friggson > Villore Accords
[ 2013.06.24 02:47:03 ] Sir Lomax > why attck these guys?
[ 2013.06.24 02:47:25 ] Meriks Friggson > They put up a POS in the wh without telling us
[ 2013.06.24 02:47:45 ] Sir Lomax > O really? they said you were the aggressors.. asking for 25%
[ 2013.06.24 02:48:13 ] Meriks Friggson > We've been in the WH for about a couple of months
[ 2013.06.24 02:48:22 ] Meriks Friggson > They showed up a week and a half ago
[ 2013.06.24 02:48:33 ] Meriks Friggson > Ran all the sites down for gas of all things
[ 2013.06.24 02:48:48 ] Sir Lomax > No kidding. They are the invaders?
[ 2013.06.24 02:49:07 ] Meriks Friggson > Yeah :< I wouldn't put a pos up in an Occupied wh
[ 2013.06.24 02:49:10 ] Meriks Friggson > Thats just dumb
[ 2013.06.24 02:49:20 ] Meriks Friggson > Like asking for fighting
[ 2013.06.24 02:49:24 ] Sir Lomax > I dono... we do it all the time :)
[ 2013.06.24 02:49:27 ] Meriks Friggson > We have enough fights in milita
[ 2013.06.24 02:49:30 ] Sir Lomax > And thats why we do it
[ 2013.06.24 02:50:14 ] Meriks Friggson > I mean, that makes sense
[ 2013.06.24 02:50:26 ] Sir Lomax > We could put up a poss too.. wouldn't that be nuts!
[ 2013.06.24 02:50:48 ] Meriks Friggson > By all means, join us in this love triangle
[ 2013.06.24 02:50:54 ] Sir Lomax > ahah
[ 2013.06.24 02:51:03 ] Meriks Friggson > You've already given us much more warning then the other guys ;)
[ 2013.06.24 02:52:24 ] Sir Lomax > Getting two different stories here
[ 2013.06.24 02:52:34 ] Meriks Friggson > Really?
[ 2013.06.24 02:52:40 ] Meriks Friggson > What are they saying?
[ 2013.06.24 02:52:44 ] Sir Lomax > I'm getting the rest of the story now

Turns out the miners are the invaders! As the A-team and our integrity is everything! We felt lied to. Those darn miners! We were fighting for the innocent and they weren’t even innocent.

O well this is EVE after all.  No one is really innocent..

[ 2013.06.24 02:51:16 ] Sir Lomax > So, this guy says you all tare the invaders in this situation
[ 2013.06.24 02:51:50 ] Sir Lomax > did you guys move into this system? like a week ago?
[ 2013.06.24 02:52:23 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > we moved in , thought this station was abandoned. Once we realized it wasmty , i sent a mail to both their diplo's , and contacted the members that were online in the whole .
[ 2013.06.24 02:52:27 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > hole ^
[ 2013.06.24 02:52:36 ] Sir Lomax > Ahhh
[ 2013.06.24 02:52:47 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > i asked if we could co -exists here peacefully , they said ye p
[ 2013.06.24 02:52:54 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > then today they attacked
[ 2013.06.24 02:54:32 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > we've been sharing exits with them , warning them about hsotiles in the hole ...basically trying to show as non threatening as possible , cause true enough , it was our fuck up for moving in
[ 2013.06.24 02:54:48 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > but we tried to solve things amicably first = P
[ 2013.06.24 02:54:58 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > amicably ^


We could flip on him because he wasn’t entirely honest with us from the beginning but these other people were faction war, using a c3 as a ISK farming hole. We hate people who farm WHs and don’t fight but the miners didn't give us the whole story. So those guys are kind of shitty too.

We tried to think of a way to get out of it. Clearly there wasn't a good guy and our hopes of being the A-Team were lost.

Our corp never really said we were going to remove the faction war guys POS, I would never agree to something so terrible. So I made a suggestion to the FW guys.

 Here is the convo;

[ 2013.06.24 02:52:52 ] Meriks Friggson > Dont get me wrong, they were a friendly bunch
[ 2013.06.24 02:53:28 ] Meriks Friggson > They moved in, were trying to make friends. But they pos was already up by the time we noticed them and had any say in the matter.
[ 2013.06.24 02:53:48 ] Sir Lomax > They are saying, they wanted to live in peace
[ 2013.06.24 02:53:49 ] Sir Lomax > peace
[ 2013.06.24 02:54:16 ] Meriks Friggson > We probably could have been had they notified us before they moved in :<
[ 2013.06.24 02:54:34 ] Meriks Friggson > I honestly would be up for it
[ 2013.06.24 02:55:31 ] Meriks Friggson > We could have struck up an agreement before they started running everything
[ 2013.06.24 02:55:32 ] Sir Lomax > Hmm We would be up for a bribe to leave right now
[ 2013.06.24 02:55:45 ] Sir Lomax > we owe them no allegiance
[ 2013.06.24 02:56:55 ] Meriks Friggson > To be honest, the amount of time it would take to reinforce this and come back in a couple of days should be reward enough haha
[ 2013.06.24 02:57:05 ] Sir Lomax > bha.. we don't want to do that
[ 2013.06.24 02:57:08 ] Meriks Friggson > But let me talk to someone about it
[ 2013.06.24 02:57:20 ] Sir Lomax > we would take a ship or two in trade. we are cheap :)
[ 2013.06.24 02:57:46 ] Meriks Friggson > Hehe, what are you thinking?
[ 2013.06.24 02:57:49 ] Meriks Friggson > Actually
[ 2013.06.24 02:57:52 ] Meriks Friggson > I have just the thing
[ 2013.06.24 02:57:58 ] Sir Lomax > ?
[ 2013.06.24 02:59:19 ] Meriks Friggson > We could, being members of the Gallente Federation, offer you upgrades to your Dominixes
[ 2013.06.24 02:59:43 ] Sir Lomax > That sounds promising
[ 2013.06.24 03:00:21 ] Meriks Friggson > We spend a few days Plexing Caldari systems, hand us the domi, we give you it back, complete with camo and upgrades
[ 2013.06.24 03:00:48 ] Sir Lomax > Well all was have is your word on that.
[ 2013.06.24 03:01:36 ] Sir Lomax > We were looking to get out of this like sooner, possibly nowish
[ 2013.06.24 03:01:36 ] Meriks Friggson > We could start with one Navy Domi trading for a striped Domi, and after that, using that domi, I use it to upgrade the next one
[ 2013.06.24 03:01:58 ] Meriks Friggson > Right now, I have nothing in the WH aside from a Myrm and an Oracle
[ 2013.06.24 03:02:17 ] Meriks Friggson > Or, you can trade for a navy domi
[ 2013.06.24 03:02:39 ] Meriks Friggson > Honestly, We'll be in the same place here if we crossed you haha
[ 2013.06.24 03:02:50 ] Meriks Friggson > Or, you can find us in Vlillirier
[ 2013.06.24 03:03:03 ] Sir Lomax > we will take a single navy domi to skidaddle out of here asap
[ 2013.06.24 03:03:24 ] Meriks Friggson > You probably wouldn't want to go to Nennamaila
[ 2013.06.24 03:03:42 ] Sir Lomax > Nope, but if you contract it to me, we will consider it golden
[ 2013.06.24 03:04:00 ] Sir Lomax > Our word is our bond as a podcaster
[ 2013.06.24 03:04:15 ] Sir Lomax > and we also don't break our word
[ 2013.06.24 03:04:37 ] Sir Lomax > So far our only word to the people in this hole.. is to not shoot their ships
[ 2013.06.24 03:06:06 ] Meriks Friggson > You got someone near Orvolle
[ 2013.06.24 03:06:09 ] Meriks Friggson > ?
[ 2013.06.24 03:06:25 ] Meriks Friggson > Mr Astarte could go
[ 2013.06.24 03:06:34 ] Sir Lomax > nope, but you can contract it to me just fine
[ 2013.06.24 03:06:50 ] Sir Lomax > contracts work Via whs
[ 2013.06.24 03:07:07 ] Meriks Friggson > Getting someone to buy it now ;)
[ 2013.06.24 03:07:47 ] Meriks Friggson > Contract is up
[ 2013.06.24 03:08:14 ] Meriks Friggson > Please remove hostile forces as agreement
[ 2013.06.24 03:08:18 ] Meriks Friggson > Dominix Navy Issue (Item Exchange)
[ 2013.06.24 03:09:32 ] Sir Lomax > sec. we pulled drones.. just a moment
[ 2013.06.24 03:09:40 ] Meriks Friggson > Of course, take your time
[ 2013.06.24 03:12:33 ] Sir Lomax > GL .. try and work out peace with these guys, they are good peeps
[ 2013.06.24 03:12:37 ] Meriks Friggson > Thank you very much
[ 2013.06.24 03:12:45 ] Sir Lomax > Fly dangeroius
[ 2013.06.24 03:12:46 ] Meriks Friggson > We'll talk for sure

Score one Navy Domi to go away!

We came into this with the idea we were the A-Team coming to solve problems.. which we kind of did. We made the request to both parties to work out their differences and got paid with a Navy Domi.


[ 2013.06.24 03:08:58 ] Sir Lomax > Ok, we have gotten bored. :)
[ 2013.06.24 03:09:10 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > heh
[ 2013.06.24 03:09:55 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > out bound then  ?
[ 2013.06.24 03:11:07 ] Sir Lomax > Yea, thank you for the fleet GL.
[ 2013.06.24 03:11:17 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > np , thank you as well
[ 2013.06.24 03:11:19 ] Sir Lomax > BTW, you should try and work out peace with them
[ 2013.06.24 03:11:23 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > and keep up the podcast
[ 2013.06.24 03:11:26 ] Sir Lomax > o/
[ 2013.06.24 03:11:30 ] Reistala Abre-Kai > \o
[ 2013.06.24 03:12:10 ] Sir Lomax > GL on your fight


I left out we received a navy domi. My bad. So I guess we are just very terrible A-team guys and can be bribed. 

I rewarded Baby Dady and Cylin with the navy domi to split. 

I try and reward content creators in my corp when ever possible. Baby Dady for scanning down this hole and Cylin for the idea to bash the FW people.

If it’s a corp infiltration, scanning, extortion, finding pvp targets or in some way bringing something to the corp. Those people should get the lion’s share of the profits.  We are all independent operators with corp support. The people who are active in the corps day to day, dictate the direction of the corp. 

I was very proud of my guys last night. 

Monday, June 17, 2013

My Dream, My Goal, Our Obligation.




In SUSU we have very few rules. For the most part you can do whatever you want, whenever you want. The focus of what we do typically is for the fun of ships exploding in EVE online.

So my dream as a CEO is having a corp full of people who have a similar mindset. So far I have been very lucky to be gifted with members who follow me into combat and actually do what I say. I’m not a pvp expert, hell I’m not even that great in 1v1. I fit my ships wrong and based on the following video I clearly don’t know what the fuck to do in any space other than W-space.

This video proves, when given multiple targets and an overview specialized for wormhole hunting.. I’ll target a rat, a gate, not the primary and whatever else happens to be near me… or not near me. I’m bad. 





For what I clearly lack in pvp skill, I make up in the spirit of pvp in EVE. 

 This is something so many players have forgotten, that EVE online is fun! It’s not serious business! Get into a frig! Derp a fleet OP, target the wrong stuff, jump when you’re not supposed to. As long as you get out there and fight, that’s all that counts.

My goal is that each and every pilot in SUSU will commit when they aren’t supposed to, look back and say FUCK that was dumb, but at least I’m not mining!


Story:

We had visitors in Jim yesterday.  A corp called Absolute Damage Inc. who rolled into Jim from their C5/C4.  These guys did the typical thing, camped one of our exits with two drakes, fly catcher, a cloaked proteus, cloaked jamGu, and whatever happened to roll out of their hole into ours.

When you put ships/bait on someone’s hole you are doing the medieval term “casting the gauntlet’. A challenge to bring it!

My obligation as a pvp spirited corp, is to bring it! Even if they outnumber me 6 to 1. TRY! DO SOMETHING! Jump in a frig, fly around, have them chase you. Something!  I warped my ECM/Neut Scorp to 100 and started jamming. What wasn’t jammed was neuted. Sadly I couldn’t deal with the drones and had to bail at half structure.

I feel when someone comes visiting JIM we are as obligated to fight them as you would be obligated to give a guest a place to sit and a cold drink. These people are guests in my home, with the intention of having a fist fight    :)

Totally out gunned and outnumbered. I explained, we don’t have the numbers to fight them well. I suggested in Local chat. “2v2 cruisers?”  A person responded “Battle cruisers?” I said sure! These are our guests. They came to us for content.

They asked where? P1. With my trusty partner ‘ikky’ flying a harbinger and me a triple rep myrm. They came at us with two drakes. We met them in combat. We won that fight too,  till they started losing, and uncloaked the Jamgu.


I provided a chair, they kicked it over. I gave them a cool drink and they spit in it.  I en’t mad. I had the opportunity to show someone my spirit for pvp. The opportunity to fight and see explosions. To show another group of people what we were all about.

I said ‘GF” in local.